Ps3 Fat vs. Ps3 Slim: Problems with The Ps3 Slim?

This article is not meant to discuss cosmetic problems, this article is meant to articulate any potential hardware issues and differences that have arisen so far with this version of the PS3.

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I have to admit this generation I jumped on board the Microsoft bandwagon upon the release of the Elite and I’ve loved it, when I heard about the loss of exclusivity for FFX13 I was completely overjoyed and it was a HUGE blow to them (Sony). I never liked the high price of the PS3 and the only games I really wanted for it was FFX13, MGS4 and MAG but now that they lost that exclusive, it made my decision to buy a 360 all the more sound. There was more games that I wanted on the 360 like Mass Effect, Gears of War, Dead Rising, etc. that at the time were not (and still not) available on any other console.

 Now with the recent price drop the PS3 became quite affordable and I could finally get MGS4 (picked up Limited Edition for $20 at local Wal-Mart J), well I have to say WOW. I really love the system, it’s super quite, heat is not an issue  and I can get in on all three systems now, if I had any one complaint that would be PSN being EXTREMELY SLOW. I have a 5mbit connection and I have tried both wired and wireless and same thing, something that my computer or even the 360 would download in less than 10mins takes 30 on PS3 or there about. Now this is and has been a constant complaint, but I guess when something is free you get exactly what you pay for which is not always a lot. Although an exception I guess is LIVE is still faster you just can’t play online without their Gold membership which is a whopping $4.61/month if you buy the 13 month subscription for $59.99 (or if you watch they occasionally go down to $49.99 or you get it in one of their bundles). I’ve had some minor random disconnects from online games but that also has to do with how the developers coded it too. Moving on.

The PS3 slim has been out for about a month now and ever since its release I was hearing about problems with the machine. One co-worker was adamant that the slim was one of Sony’s worst products and they changed the BD drive to a lower quality one over the original and of course this is what he had heard. I told him I was looking into it before I bought mine and his response was “Well it’s only been out for a short time so there’s nothing really on it yet” but yet he was able to determine that the drive was of lower quality? Go figure.

 Now I’m not here to discuss cosmetic problems, this article is meant to articulate any potential hardware issues that have arisen with this version of the PS3 so far. Now I would think that even after a month at least some problems would crop up here or there but nothing really so far.

 Well I’ve done some research on this and as of October 4th this is a few things I have found:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/27/playstation-3-slim-review/

 This is a review of the PS3 Slim and overall it’s a fairly positive review and comes recommended.

“Looking past any potential aversion to matte, anyone picking up a PlayStation 3 Slim is getting a significantly better product than an early or even mid adopter”

 The problem with the slim seems to come with the BD drive being a “touch” slower at loading movies (according to this review), some being as low as 2 seconds and as much as 10 seconds for the few that they tested. For me that is not a deal breaker, I’ll take the improvement gains over the minor loss in speed! As someone else had put it, it’s like watching a car go by at 100kph and another one go by at 96kph yeah there’s a difference but not that noticeable.

Blu-ray playback

 

Disc-to-XMB

 

         Click-to-video

60GB PS3 Classic

     PS3 Slim

       60GB PS3 Classic

      PS3 Slim

Watchmen

         9.6

        10

                  23

          27

The International

         10

        10

                  31

          35

Air Force One

          9

        9.9

                  30

          32

Nightmare Before Xmas

         10

        10

                  25

          35

The difference in power consumption is one big gain over the previous models as you can see below:

Noise, heat, and power consumption

 

      Current (ampere)

 

         Power (watt)

60GB PS3 Classic

   PS3 Slim

       60GB PS3 Classic

     PS3 Slim

Plugged in / powered off

         .05

      0.06

                   2

         1

Browsing XMB

       1.44

        .7

                170

       79

Downloading from PS Store

       1.49

        .7

                175

       81

Installing LittleBigPlanet

       1.4

        .64

                162

       74

Playing LittleBigPlanet

       1.54

        .78

                181

       89

Playing Killzone 2

       1.67

        .86

                196

     100

Watching a Blu-ray

       1.44

        .68

                167

      75

The noise level is supposed to have decreased over the older models but as you can see bellow it’s not a real difference to make it really matter much except maybe when watching a movie. I have to agree that it is significantly quieter than my 360 is, I used to hate watching movies on it because it was so noisy. To be honest the first time I turned on my slim I wasn’t entirely sure if it was on, I had pushed the PS button and didn’t really hear it power up or anything (other than the beep), it wasn’t till I looked at the machine that I noticed the lights were on.

 “Also reduced is the noise of the machine, and in repeat tests, we stand by our initial results: it’s about 2 to 3 decibels quieter on average during gameplay, and up to 10 decibels quieter while watching Blu-ray movies — nothing to write home about while running missions in Infamous, but during the quieter, more suspenseful moments of Watchmen, there wasn’t any loud whirring noises this time to ruin the mood. And regardless, any iteration of the PS3 is gonna be remarkably quieter than the Xbox 360.”

 One thing that was also supposed to be an improvement was the slim was supposed to run cooler but according to this they did not have much luck with that as they both ran roughly equal in temperature. Although I’m sure this would vary from what you were doing and how hard the machine had to work too!

“The actual temperature hasn’t seemed to fluctuate, at least in our experiences: when placed side-by-side on the same shelf under near-identical situations, both consoles hovered at around 106 degrees Fahrenheit when running Folding@Home or playing a Blu-ray disc. Kind of a bummer, but with our electricity bill now marginally lower, guess we can’t complain too much here.”

http://www.homecinemachoice.com/reviews/new_reviews/ps3+slim+hands+review+why+new+console+both+better+and+worse+original+28+08+09

This review has some other points to make about the audio quality for CD player and DVD player part:

“We submitted the unit to our Tech labs, and in their opinion it measures worse than the original machine. While the console can spin CDs, it’s no replacement for a CD player. The original was actually surprisingly good in this regard, delivering only 137.9ps of measured audio jitter; it was let down mainly by issues relating to the cabinet and its rigidity.
But with this iteration there’s a notable increase in audio jitter, which is up to 461.7ps. And as a DVD player it’s poor, with a measured high frequency response of -6.14dB (@ 5.8MHz). ‘This is where the wheels fall off – a dreadful figure,’ bemoans the Lab report. But does anyone really care about DVD playback on the PS3 Slim? I doubt it”

 Conclusion
While there are (undeniably pedantic) caveats regarding the unit, I think there’s little doubt that the PS3 Slim is destined to re-energize Sony’s PlayStation brand. It’s priced right, looks great and performs well. In this regard, Sony has got its game groove back.

 I just finished watching a DVD and the audio sounded fine to me, so I’m guessing that machines will see the difference but we won’t. There was no complaints from me or my kids on this at all.

This video targets the slim as being the issue for the game Uncharted, as you can read from the comments this problem is NOT related to the slim in particular it seems more that the Firmware would be the problem. This user has even mentioned that the game worked fine on his old system but again this could be related to firmware. There have been problems with V3.00 firmware apparently causing this game (along with others)to freeze occasionally. My friend has a regular PS3 and he was commenting just the other day that the game had frozen on him.

*This video no longer exist but the discription gives the basics of what it was about.

This may have been fixed with the 3.01 update as my friend has since updated his system and hasn’t complained about the game freezing on him.

  There are plenty of “reviews” out there comparing the old to the new and this is but a taste of anything that is considered to be a problem with this machine. You are always going to get defective models here and there, that is what the stores return policy is for or the manufacturers warranty. Now obviously I know I have not covered everything as I’m sure more will pop up over the next few months, but if you find some other site that shows a problem feel free post in the comment’s and if I collect enough data to warrant it, I will write a follow up article to this one at a later time.

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16 Comments

  1. Valdo
    Posted October 14, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    Great review thank you, it really helped

  2. Jejeff90
    Posted November 19, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    Great review! My “fat” PS3 is all messed up (AV problem).So I’ve been considering the Slim ever since it came out but kept having seconds thoughts after what I experienced with the Slim PS2 back in the days(lens problem,AV problem,power problem,I bought 3 of them lol). Thanks again!

  3. Xav
    Posted November 24, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    Nice review ill buy the ps3 slim

  4. Posted November 25, 2009 at 1:26 am

    Glad you all like it and it was helpful in your decisions. I have the orginal ps2 and a slim (bought it instead of getting a dvd player for a second room, just better deal for the money) and it hasn’t been till recently that my ps2 fat has started with the whole disc read error on movies and games. I have been fairly fortunate in that respect. Again thanks for the positive comments.

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  6. jlozon
    Posted December 16, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    hey great review i liked how you covered problems the older one had to the slim, i peeked at what i was geting for xmas and it was a ps3 slim 120gb so im pumped to play the damn thing!!

  7. Zack
    Posted December 17, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    LOL! same for me jlozon, well i didn’t peak at the box that appeared to be a PS3, but i was curios at one that looked like ps3 game, and what do you know, it was call of duty modern warfare 2, so i’m a bit ancy for next friday.

  8. Posted December 28, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    You forgot the ylod issue!!

  9. Posted December 29, 2009 at 1:41 am

    the ylod issue is not related to the slim in particular and seems to be less prevalent on the slim models than on its predecessor. Not saying it has not occurred, a quick search will point you to some posts containing mostly spam and a questionable video.

  10. Will
    Posted January 1, 2010 at 2:36 am

    I received a PS3 slim for x-mas this year. So far I love the system. It’s quiet and attractive and the graphics are fantastic. I did however purchase a copy of Afro Samurai that will not play on my system. I took it to my brother’s house (he has a PS3 fat) and it loaded up with no difficulties. Has anyone heard of this happening before and is there a patch or solution to this problem? Input would be greatly appreciated.

  11. cole
    Posted January 3, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    The playststion3 slim is great and sexy, I owned a 360 I’ve actually gone through 2 and both got the 3 red lights I got sick of the 360 afer and got a slim never gonna get a 360 again

  12. Ross
    Posted January 21, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    Hey thanks your review was very helpful because i got a 250 gb slim around christmas for myself and found that it would shut down with the over heat error (shuts down and beeps 3 times) or at least thats what i have been told so reading this reinforced the fact my system was one of the faulty ones.

  13. Blake.
    Posted February 3, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    hey guys.
    SO yeah, after reading all that im thinking PS3 is the way to go. i was considering on buying elite xbox 360 but considering that im living in the middle east there’s not much i could do on either consoles in terms of connectivity and all. unlike back in the states i could use xbox live with no probs but i dont think its available in the middle east.

    im heading back soon to get a PS3 is there anything specs that i should keep an eye on? a list would be helpful. mind you buying stuff abroad often are risky…so i need a ‘professional’s consult’ if you will.

    thanks.

  14. Joey
    Posted February 21, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Just got a slim I own 2 phats and well they seem to have more power in the usb department than the slim. I have a splitfish controller I use in slim usb 1 then I tested an assortment of usb flash drives it would not read. This is not a problem with other gamepads etc. While charging it reads the usb drive. My phats never had a problem with this. But there is definitely an issue with the usb ports being WEAKER than the phat models.

  15. Posted March 8, 2010 at 5:00 am

    I am watching Terminator Salvation blue-ray on my ps3(slim) I got a few week’s ago. It’s perfect. It plays Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 on it nicely. GTA IV is a great game for it. All the graphics look good. Internet connection never went down(wireless) as the phat one did always. I don’t see any problem’s with the ps3 slim. I am getting a little worried though about the over heat problem. My little brother plays on it constantly, And leaves it running all the damn time. But other then that, everything is puuurrrrffect. ^_^ add me, harddrive55

  16. Ross
    Posted March 15, 2010 at 9:18 am

    more problems with the fat models, im going to trade my fat in for a slim.

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