The Rant Against RS and Jagex
After Jagex’s poor choice of updates back in November, I had written this rant.
This is a thread reflecting on where JaGeX has gone wrong throughout the past months. It will also be reflecting strongly on the updates (or downdates, I should say) which the POES and I argue so strongly about (as well as other things). These downdates were when they removed free trade from the game of RS.. Want to lend something to your friends? You are unable to, due to the fact that you can’t trade over 30k without someone giving to something in return.
Not only did these updates take away the ability of free trade from the game of RuneScape, but it has also taken the one of RS’ best features- The Wilderness & Duel Arena. The wilderness was stripped from the game [without warning, may I add] and what were we long time players given? BH…which will be explained further as you read more.
PVP
Bounty Hunter (the beginning)- I will explain BH first. BH is a PVP minigame, which was Jagex’s poor way of fixing the updates back in November/December. If you didn’t read the INTRO, the updates are what took the wilderness (and several other things) from RS. Not only that, but BH is only on a few worlds.
Now, at first, BH was multi PvP. Now, the problem with this is that whoever had the largest was safe, and would easily win the battles. Not only that, but it stripped the ability of actually PVPing with a small group of friends (something I did A LOT when I used to play RS). I would just join a small group of my friends, go to an less populated server, and walk around looking for a battle..
BUT, all of this was unable to do in BH. It was impossible to group with a small group of friends and play, since you would constantly get ganked by the larger groups. Not only that, but the cave level differences are ridiculous. 1-54, 55-99, 100-126 (or close to that). This takes away from lower levels being able to enjoy the PvP experience…Higher level and larger numbers- ALWAYS victory. Trying to enjoy a PVP experience with a friend– ALWAYS losing
So, the EARLY version of BH took away:
—Ability to enjoy a PvP experience with a small group of friends
—Ability to have a fair fight
—Ability to fight your own levels with risk
—Ability to have a less populated PvP world.
Bounty Hunter (After they changed it): Bounty Hunter is still only done in a few select worlds. But now, instead of being multi PvP, it is single PVP.
This was done before the release of FOG (explained later on), so Jagex felt the need to have some single PVP until that released. Well, now there is still NO multi PvP with risk and reward, even several months after the release of FOG.
Now there are several problems with the single player BH. The fact is that now it is like a bad day in the Edgeville wilderness- “pjin” (Player kill jacking).(when you steal someone else’s’ kill) is very strong. Not only that, but there are many times when you are not matched up with someone even near your level, which leaves players at a huge disadvantage.
Problems with BH now:
—Lower levels are at a huge disadvantage; it’s like walking into level 50 wildy.
—No team play,
—Player kill jacking is stronger than ever
—STILL hard to get a fair fight
——These and many more problems are what plague Bounty Hunter
Fists OF Guthix- People were still mad from the fact they still didn’t have single PvP. Sure, BH was made 1v1 later on, but people were waiting for this…Boy was it a disappointment to many people.
To sum it up, it was kind of like a hide and seek game. I get some rock, and I run away from my target so he doesn’t catch me. I still run, and try to get as many points as I can get, the closer to the center I am the more points I receive..
From the person chasing their target ’s point of view, the fact is they just run around aimlessly looking for their target…no skill involved. It’s a safe, no risk, hardly any reward PVP minigame…not exactly what the community was waiting for….
Flaws with F.O.G.:
—Still safe, no risk at all
—Unbalanced, I’ve been matched with 40s and 120s
—No skill, it’s like playing hide & seek
—IT’S STILL SAFE. The people who were looking for something like the Edge wildy were deeply disappointed.
I’m not going into clan wars, since that particularly explains itself……………..
PVE AND COMBAT
Hmm, where to begin..
Combat- Well, to say the least, the combat is extremely boring. It is entirely food-based, hack n slash, and you don’t even involve any use of skill. If I click on a monster, then I will automatically attack using the skill I would like to train in. It really took no skill and I could practically go downstairs, eat a piece of pie, come back up and I would still be fighting.
PvE- The AI is poor, the monsters just walking around in circles constantly. Nothing surprising from the monsters, just the same attack each time. The most interesting it gets is when a dragon uses its fire breath.
Not only that, but RS doesn’t even get close to encouraging anyone to group (until much higher levels). I, and many others, hated when there were people around my monsters, which should be the exactly the opposite of what we should be doing. It’s nice to know that it is solo friendly, but wanting me to play alone is not exactly what an MMO should be going for.
DIFFERENT SKILLS
This is both good and bad part of RS. While it leaves different things to do, the problem is that they are so repetitive. They are not enjoyable, it is just constantly grinding until just so you can make money. It’s just a mask for grinding with no real reward.
COMMUNITY
The community is one of the worst I have ever seen, I would go far enough to say it is worse than WoW’s community. It is infested with young kids, who run around calling people noobs and talking smack and speaking curse words for the first time.
Why is this so? It’s because Jagex caters to kids with their updates. Ever since it was posted on Miniclip, Jagex has made updates based for children. Not only that, but putting the game on Miniclip is what gave this game the community it has today.
NOTE: not all of the community is immature, but a good percentage of them are.
JAGEX: THE POOR WAY THEY HANDLED THIS
Unprepared: The fact is, Jagex was unprepared when they made this update.. They (somehow) must have expected everything to just go peachy-keen when they created this update…they were mistaken. Why are they unprepared you ask?
a) The loot share system was not implemented until SEVERAL MONTHS after the update. Somehow, they must have forgotten that when players actually do share loot from monsters, and realized that they COULDN’T GIVE EACHOTHER LOOT. It is ridiculous how they did not have this ready for the game-changing update.
b) The lend system is STILL not released. SIX MONTHS after they make this update, they are a still working on having players lend things to each other…Ridiculous.
c) A single PVP minigame was added several months after. Once again, if you are going to do updates like this, why don’t they have this from the beginning?! It shouldn’t take a genius to realize that the EDGE pkers wanted something to replace their PVP with!
d) Overall, my point is Jagex doesn’t think before their updates. They go about changing the balance of the game, yet they fail to be prepared for the consequences. They should have had these updates released by the time this update was ready, NOT six months and counting after the updates.
Customer Service: It really is terrible. When it comes to simple issues, they will always be willing to answer them. Yet when it comes to the times when there are actually problems, they blow it over and act as if nothing happened. Truly poor customer service on Jagex’s part.
It’s simple: Jagex just doesn’t care about their customers, and they believe they can do whatever they like with game- people just won’t be leaving. They are probably correct.
The list just goes on…
ECONOMY
The economy has fallen apart without the wilderness. People who made money doing things like selling food and creating potions are in a huge dilemma, since the demand of their items have gone down. And, since this is no longer the beautiful player run economy that it once was, they are forced to go with the prices that Jagex has made.
When they took away the ability for players to set their own prices, they took away the free economy. Hard working fishers now cannot sell their lobsters, unless they go within Jagex’s range of prices. Doesn’t matter how hard/long it took to achieve, they are unable to sell them at their own price…
The need for things like potions and food has also gone down. The once highly demanded items are now much less used than before.
Having the developers pick the price of items, and not the players, is just wrong.
THE OTHER BIG ISSUE….
The inability for players to lend things to other players…One of the best parts of MMOs is having the ability to meet new people, make friends, and share items. Want to help that level 5 and give him 45k to get him on his feet? CAN’T, the trade restriction doesn’t allow you. Want to lend your long time friend 300k since he got hacked? CAN’T, trade restriction doesn’t allow you.
JaGeX has taken away the ability to help a friend, to give something to that noob, it’s just not possible anymore.. Many people cannot play a game like that, and I for am one of them.
OTHER MMORPGS WILL NOT FOLLOW
The chances of other MMOs actually following Jagex in their footsteps is just so slim…the fact is, JaGeX is very lucky they were able to to get away with it…here are the reasons why:
a) Browser based
b) Younger aged community
c) Players who put too much time and money in the game to quit
d) Their first game- don’t really know of any others
Those are the main reasons why Jagex isn’t paying for their updates. No other MMOs are willing to take the steps that Jagex has taken because they do not have any of these things. Hell, Blizzard hasn’t even done it yet and they have a problem much worse than Jagex’s. Any other MMO to do this is practically writing their own grave in the graveyard of MMOs. Right next to SWG, in fact.

ya i also have grives over jagex…..
but fog is useful for getting some thing like rune berserker shield and combat robes/druidic robes
Yeah you said it dude.I COMPLETELY AGREE.jagex only does stuff like this for money,well from my point of view.They never seem to think b4 doing stuff and i mean who would pay to play just for full screen and some other stuff?well,ppl who are poisoned by them.The fist of guthix is totally messed up.TOTALLY.
Thanks for your feedback everyone